Athanasios Strigas has studied Political and Economic Sciences in the University of Heidelberg.
Moreover Foreign Relations and International Strategy in the University of Georgetown in Washington D.C.
and Propaganda in Patris Lumumba of Moschow.He started his career as an assistand and nowadays
as professed consultant of the supereme military commander of NATO.Most of his time he is in Brussels
and the last 1.5 years he has written 4 books which had big success.
_We all know that countries are being guided from its political and military leaderships.Big countries
and small do exist and also the small countries have dependency from the big ones.Despite this in your books
you mention two international decision making centers which in your opinion are above the countries and ideologies.
Could you be more specific at that point?
_It may sound exaggerated but the people in our days are being guided by our political and military leaderships
according to the orders of the two global centers-Trilateral Commision and the renowned Bilderberg Club.
This marks a new status and it is not something that happened in the past,in which the world was ruled by the
ideologies.It is known that the ideologies were being used everytime as a way to control the people.
But the conflicting ideologies were creating also many warfare.
Therefore until some time we had alliances between countries.The last years we have seen a change in the global
scenerey.Everything has been globalised.The world has become a global neighbourhood.
Therefore it urged the necessity for global decision making centers.From this point of view the planetarchy
,if we call it like this,will be the politics of the 21st century.This necessary margins the goverments
of the various countries which are now dependent from those international centers.Today we see that the profits
are now the ones that determine the destinies of the countries.The world is already being ruled by substitutes of
those two centers.The task of the todays goverments is to keep safe the 93% of the international wealth.This means
the wealth that those two centers manage.
_What is exactly the Bilderberg Club and what the Trilateral Commision?
_The Bilderberg Club is an international decision making center which took its name from the hotel
of the Dutch town Oosterberg where its first convention took place in 1954.It does have as headquarters Hague in Holland.
In its conventions we would say that take part the protagonists and the supernumary.The supernumary are something
like visitors-speakers and they are only allowed to speak a few minutes and always in the first day of the convention.
The Guidance Comitee of the Club is consisted by Americans and Europeans from the developed countries ,never
has joined a person from the Thirld World.
The Club is consisted by persons with conservative abberations such as Giovanni Anieli,Luns,Rotschild etc.
The president of the Bilderberg Club is today James Kallahan ex-prime minister of England and his assistant is the
ex-General Secretary of NATO,lord Karington.You must remember that in 1993 the Club has met in Hellas,in "Asteras" hotel
of Bouliagmeni.The Bilderberg Club controls today 33% of the global wealth.
Some members of the Bilderberg Club without having departed from it officialy have established in June of 1973
a more developed part the Trilateral Commision with leader the president of the Chase Manhatan Bank,D.Rockefeller.
From that time the members of the Trilateral Commision do operate parallelaly but somewhat above the Bilderberg Club
as a Center of Research and Analysis.From the founding members of the Trilateral Commision are Sirus Vans and
Wahren Christoffer.President is D.Rockefeller and executive manager is Zbigniew Brzezinski.The Trilateral Commision
manages the 60% of the international wealth.
_From where do those centers have such power?
_It think that it is obvious that they take the power from the international wealth they have in their hands
and from the apointive presidents or prime ministers -which are in the majority technocrats-which they do control and
until some point do guide.
_But how is possible the selection of the proper persons?Are there any persons that accept to be the dependent leaders
of their countries?
_This йж a resonable question but the human ambition does not have any limits.There exist skillful people that
in order to rise from the rank at the top of their country's leadership do not mind for the means that will
be used and also for the consequences.The selection for the suitable persons to serve the two centers is being
made after checked information which have collected analysts of the NSA with the help of organisations such as CIA,
DIA and DEA.The deductions which have extracted the analysts of the NSA are being transfered in the end to the Guidance
Comitee of the Bilderberg Club.The Comitee does meet secretely and the conclusion is sealed in a special envelope
which is then given to the presidency of the Bilderberg Club and the Trilateral Commision.Almost 99% the
presidencies do approve the decision.The qualifications of the candidates are very fluid,i mean at first elastic
consciousness or if you want plasticity to comply to the international decision making center.Another element
which is being controlled is that they must not disturb the global balance.This must because it has nothing to do
with the balance of the world but from the balance of the profit rates.Virtually they globally prefabricate the income
of the two international centers funds.
_But didn't that happen also in the past?
_In the past if someone was a prime minister or a president would have come to a conflict with the great powers
he would have been characterised as 'troublemaker' and underminer of the liberty and then would have been vanished
politically or biologically.Today the politicians are dependent of some needs which do not allow them to commit any
independent moves.You have seen in the recent Germany elections-which happened together with our counsil
elections-that the French were the ones that were celebrating the victory of Kohl.And this becaused the Mark is
supporting the French franc.There is no more any freedom in the leaders.As you likewiese are propably
obliged to some friends that you have to take into consideration in your moves and plans.
_Could you give as an example?
_Let's make an hypothesis that for example this or the next Greek goverment had the will the Albanian and Turkish problem
and the dispute of Hellas with Skopje for the name Macedonia.What would they do?Just 300 men are enough to invade
into the Aktio base in Preveza which belongs to the NSA and then every problem would be solved.Because if this base
would be occupied every electronic control in the Balkans and Turkey would be paralysed.But such a movement needs
_Which are the methods the structure and the groups of the global decision making centers?
_The methods that are being used are simple:i promote you as a president,prime minister,military leader;you satisfy your
vanity and have ethical and economical profits,in returm you have to blindly obey us.If not we destroy you with the
method of corruption or the forced resignation or the assasination.At least this is what happened till now.
_What tendencies do appear those centers today?
_In our days you can see a tendency for renewal.And therefore it was decided in the last Bilderberg meeting to give to the
people 2% percent more from the international wealth,something that the old ones did not accept.There are conflicts
between the groups of the conservative and the more liberals.But i believe the last will in the end dominate.
_The last years humanity watched anxiously the falldown of the Soviet Union.Which dynamics have lead to this falldown and
what is its deepest meaning?
_The falldown of the Soviet Union is a case that started virtually in 1973 from the Trilteral Commision and a part
of the Bilderberg Club.The members who left the Bilderberg Club and formed the Trilateral Commision used the tactics of
shock and have enforced with their will the breakup of the Soviet Union to the Bilderberg.This was made possible because
in the Summer of 1973 ,in the 30 July spefically,the Trilateral Commision was controlling the 60% of the global wealth
with their its bank which is the Wolrd Bank.So it became the dominator of the game.
The meaning of the Soviet Unions falldown is to prove internationally the failure of the Communistic ideology and present
it as a system that is unhuman.Besides this because the population of the earth is growing the extra 2% that will be given
to the people will be granted to the Soviet Union from the mining of their geological wealth.The soviet people must
be educated as a consuming citizen like the western one.In order to control those people many new countries will be created
that will not have constant peace.
_What is the role of the International Numismatic Fund?
_The International Numismatic Fund is a branch of the World Bank.Today the majority of the countries are obligated to
borrow mounts of money that they cannot get from private capital or from other countries.This necessity occurs either
because the management of the public resources was not successful either because the 5 years plan did fail or because
there is interior turmoil etc.There exist of course also politicians that redeem the sympathy of the people by offering
them temporal material comforts and asking from them the minimum of their possible efforts.They do this ofcourse with
money they take from the national budget that should be normally given to development projects.In any way the point
is that sometimes countries reach to a deadend.
On this occasion the INF does exploit the circumstances and acts like this:it grants a pre-approval of the loan to
those countries but with its own conditions.This means that you will get the loans from the banks,that all are
controlled by the World Bank,if you take these and these measures which are almost everytime unsociably.This has as
a result turmoil in the society.The goverment are in a phase of delirium.In order to calm down the turmoil even more
money must be given.In this way that do finally get totally controlled from their loaner.
Let's take for example the Greek education system.60% of the Education Ministry outlays are coming from loans of the INF.
So it is not at all odd that from the 150.000 kids only 40.000 do enter the public universities.All the above explain
also why the public works in our country always begin but never end.
_What are the global decision making centers most afraid of?
_One is the soft spot of the global leaders-even if this sounds impossible-and this lies in their constant fear whether
someday the people wake up and demand the wealth that they hold.The same happened in the ex-Soviet Union.The NSA had
information that some persons lead the millions of soviets to a revolution in order to get the deducted of more than
70 years money.They were informed about this movement in time and they prevented it by dismembering the country.
_You mentioned before an enourmous in power organisation,the NSA.
_Yes,exactly.The NSA (National Security Agency) was founded in the 4th November of 1952 by the president Truman and it
has its headquarters at Fort Mead of USA.It has more than 2.000.000 agents and scientists from all over the world.There
is no comitee in the Congreess,not even any laws that control their activities.In reality there is not even an act that
confirms its establishment.There exist only documents to protect her.The security rate is very high and its electronic
equipment is unique in the world and it has the most perfect computer center in the world.Its computers are
gathering and analysing daily all the information from the hundreds of monitoring stations that are on the whole planet
and in this way they oversee the telecommunications of both the friendly and enemy countries.
The Hellenic part of the NSA network is the american base of Aktio.It is equiped with tenths of satellites which are
for example monitoring the movements of the Serbs or of Sadam and in little seconds they inform the headquarters of the
If you ask someone which is the bigggest secret service in the world,he will mention the CIA,DIA or KGB.On purpose
the NSA has cultivated the impressiong for long time that the secret services of USA that do everything are CIA and DIA.
An enormous amount of books and articles have been used to write for these secret services.But for the NSA noone has
ever written something.In reality those services are executive organs of the NSA which from its side is the executive
organ of the two global decision making center that we mentioned before the Bilderberg Club and the Trilateral Commision.
Moreover the NSA is the politicians manufacturer (of presidents and prime ministers) always according to the orders
of the two global centers.It does redeem geniuses from all over the world,it is said that it is the inventer of the
infections of the today world and of many more things that is impossible to hold the simple human mind.
_How can sombebody manufacture politiicans?
_Well to construct or the opposite!There is a comitee of politician manufacturing whose president is D.Rockefeller with
vice president Richard Foren whose is the leading consultant of General Electric.Members of this comitee is Henry
Kissinger,Alexander Hayge,Toshio Nakamura,Edmold Rotschild,Jovianni Anielli,Sirus Vans,Charles Dunkan ex-president of Coca-
Cola and Helmut Schmidt.The politicians that are going to be presidents or prime ministers are being approved or disapproved
by the above counsil which meets once a month in the central building of the NSA.When the candidate person gets approved or
disapproved the brainwash from the Mass Media begins.Money is being given from the Central Banks to establish a party etc.On
the same time the other secret services take orders so that the plan of the NSA is carried out.
_What do you see in the near future? Will the status remain as it exists or will there be changes in the world?
_I think that the changes will begin from the area of Saudi Arabia,changes that will have an effect on the whole
international scene.In this occasion the fragile balance of the oil cartels will be altered because 3-4 oil wells
of Aramco's cartel will be bombed.This will mean a raise in the prices of petroleum products.The cartels for
one or two years will have a problem in their profit rates.
In this occasion Hellas with its oil can play a leading role.Here we will have a repeat of the Onasis phaenomenon which
came recentrly in public with all its twisted situations.This time Hellas can play a leading role in Europe because its
economic strength of oil will allow it to be the 3rd power in the European Union.I mean that England will loose its
oil wells in the Black Sea ,which belong to BP and Shell,at the same time with the coup d'etat in Saudi Arabia.
It is very possible that the geographic borders of Hellas with Turkey,Skopje and Albania will change and also the
borders of Germany and Poland (Oderneisser line).England will loose Scotland because the Scottish autonomists will be the
ones that will blow its oil wells.From the time IRA has made an agreement with England a part from it will go to the
Scottish autonomists.Being in high pressure and after having passed the economic convulsion which will lead to the global
shock we mentioned before the world's economy will make an opening to China.China ofcourse will ask something for return.
An exchange could be India.What does this mean? It means that it will be allowed to China to invade with an artificial
subterfuge to in India.The Bilderberg Club will supply India and the Trilateral Commision will renew the armour of China.
In this war ,in order to reduce the world's population,the netron's bomb will be used.Something that the general of the
once NATO's Army Alexander Hayge was fighting off and therefore in 29th June of 1979 they tried to assasinate him.If things
happen like this the subsequences will drag along Pakistan and Turkey,which will split up in two pieces,Eastern and Western
part.In this occasion Tansu Ciller will put Turkey in the European Union.
Taking this opportunity i should tell you that within the vast changes that will happen in the near future is a step-up
of the Ecomenical Patriarchate of Konstantinopolis.I mean that it will play a more important role than today.
Already Ciller has ready a draft of law for the turkish parlament if the conditions allow it,according to it the
Patriarchate will become a separated state,something like the Vatican for example.
_Except of exploiting the global wealth where else do target the two global decision centers?Isn't it a little bit
unreasonable to say that a small group of humans does affect and control almost all the countries on earth? How do they
manage not to loose the control from their hands?
_Let's make something clear.Everyone that is in either the Bilderberg Club or in the Trilateral Commision is just representa-
tive of the global cartels.Allied cartels choose some persons to represent them in the above decision making centers.Their
opinion for the international trend they will follow is determinant according to the the cartel they represent.Besides
cartel people the only thing that they understand is profit rates.The people that consist those decision making centers
just bring gold to those cartels.Few exceptions of members such as Rockefeller,Mitshubishi etc. are just bright exceptions
or as it was before in the Trilateral Commision Pol Ostin the boss of Coca-Cola that during all talkings and resolutions was
Therefore the Bilderberg Club and Trilateral Commision propose to the people of the cartels such as Rockefeller,Hunt etc.the
international politics that they will follow.
The second part of your question has this answer.In 1963 the Kennedy's tried to reduce the tension between USA and the
USSR and to stop the war in Vietnam.But the cartels had budgeted that they would collect a large amount of billions of
dollars with the continuation of the investements in armor and the war.John Kennedy knew that they would kill him.He decided
to get sacrificed because of his illness (an old injury in the back bone which caused horrible pains) and believed that
they would stop there.They took out of the hook also Roberty Kennedy that would certainly win the next elections and would
stop the war.Nixon dared to reduce the dispute this means that he did not continue the war till 1978 but did stop him at
1973.Therefore they involved him in the Watergate scandal and they sent him home.So the control and the guidance is in
The two global centers except from the 'legal' goverments do have also persons involved in matters that have nothing
to do with politics.They are bankers,shipowners,industrialists and higher state officials.They collect every information
they get and they trasmiit it to the centers.There the resolutions and the proposals follow.After the propasals the
falldown and as a last solution the death.
_How can the humans react to this totalitarianism? What hopes do exist?
_The only thing that the two global centers are afraid is the World's public Opinion.If the citizens of the countries
get informed and realise that they are not governed by their politicians they will maybe learn to react.This reaction
can take many variations.For example if they deny to work for specific circles of interests.Then the pressure is obvious.
They do take it seriously in mind.Then they will take goverments up and down.Bring the army in the sidewalk but if they
make sure that there is no solution the Leading Comitee is directly being resolved which must give new guide lines.It is
obvious that the previous Leading Comitee must resignate immediately and a new one must be elected.
_Are there opponent groups that want the people to wake up?
_There are secret groups which came out from the global decision making centers themselfs.I am paid by the NATO to be against
monopolies against the big bosses themselfs.This luxury does allow the proselytism of other colleagues or people from the
cartels so that they finally get persuaded that instead of having profits 1 trillion dollars a year to have something lower.
But this bare difference can give good to thousands of families.A few such persons do exist and act against those two
global centers.One of them is Openheimer the son,that is at this time in Moscow and lives in the eastern part of the city.
His father lives in the western part.The son Openheimer is against the power structure.He agrees to reduct(very barely
ofcourse) his profit rates.His father doesn't.Let us note here that his father convinced the Bilderberg Club and the
Trilateral Commision to bring down Gorbachev that selled the russian diamonds for 468 dollars the karat.Then he promoted
Yieltsin that does sell them for 69,7 dollars a karat.If the people of Russia does not react they will have to wait for
the Openheimers death because else they will not prosper.